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« Reply #225 on: December 12, 2008, 12:40:52 pm »

Haven't looked at 5.0b3 yet, but you may want to add something to footnote 36 saying that that CRCR tile has since had a later version printed in some boxed versions of I&C, as well as in the Big Box.

Edit: This has probably been caught already, but the FRRR tile from Catapult is incorrectly marked in the tile reference for that set.
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« Reply #226 on: December 12, 2008, 05:50:58 pm »

nice job MJ!

the time to re-read this and double check your great work
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« Reply #227 on: December 13, 2008, 04:44:15 am »

Haven't looked at 5.0b3 yet, but you may want to add something to footnote 36 saying that that CRCR tile has since had a later version printed in some boxed versions of I&C, as well as in the Big Box.
Done!

Edit: This has probably been caught already, but the FRRR tile from Catapult is incorrectly marked in the tile reference for that set.
Thanks—corrected it now. That's what happen when you use copy-and-paste too much Wink
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« Reply #228 on: December 13, 2008, 04:50:36 am »

You know, I was just looking at the Favourite House Rules thread, and for the first time it occurred to me that we could include them at the end of the relevant expansion rather than at the end of the document as a whole. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #229 on: December 13, 2008, 05:54:49 am »

They would have to be crystal clear that they are house rules, otherwise we wouldn't want them to get mixed up with actual rules. How about they are put into shaded boxes, much like how the quotes are displayed on here?

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HOUSE RULE: With King and Robber Baron, each holder of these cards at the end of the game gets a straight 10 points for each card (matching the Trade points system of scoring, and avoiding the problem of counting finished roads.
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« Reply #230 on: December 13, 2008, 07:11:47 am »

They would have to be crystal clear that they are house rules, otherwise we wouldn't want them to get mixed up with actual rules. How about they are put into shaded boxes, much like how the quotes are displayed on here?

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HOUSE RULE: With King and Robber Baron, each holder of these cards at the end of the game gets a straight 10 points for each card (matching the Trade points system of scoring, and avoiding the problem of counting finished roads.
Yeah, something like that. I guess it will depend on how well I can break the house rules up into sections. I'll have a look.
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« Reply #231 on: December 13, 2008, 11:36:13 pm »

Matt - I love this new updated version. Thank you for your hard work Smiley

I have proof read the new version. Here are the corrections, IMO, needed:

Page 19 – Footnote 36: It might be useful to explain that this tile was reprinted for later RGG editions and might well be included in some players’ sets.

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Haven't looked at 5.0b3 yet, but you may want to add something to footnote 36 saying that that CRCR tile has since had a later version printed in some boxed versions of I&C, as well as in the Big Box.
- sorry, missed that.


Page 20 – Footnote 42 (and also pictured example): Actually, the footnote is wrong. The Big Box rules are correct. The city does indeed score 24 points. The 2nd pennant is obscured by the follower on the tile, the tile being the only ‘cccf’ tile in that arrangement and that includes a pennant. So at present it is the CAR that is incorrect here.


Page 47 – Paragraph 4: “…reason for this is that, unlike all the other expansions described here, the GQ11 expansion is the product of Rio Grande Games. It may be possible to use the tile as if it were a pig-herd tile, but this would be a house rule, rather than an official rule”

This is now not unlike all the other expansions (CS&C is a product of RGG also). Also, as a side note, this is a perfect place to show an unofficial house rule off in a shaded box Smiley


Page 69 – “Question: When the two River sets are combined, should we make two rivers (using the two spring) or discard one spring and one lake and make just one river? Answer: One spring and one lake are discarded”.

To be consistent with the previous footnote (31) an ‘s’ needs adding after ‘spring’.


Page 71 – The colour of the text changes on this page. Not a major problem, I know.


Page 72 – “The three tiles above are all grouped under different sections, even though they may all be used to connect two city segments on the left and right. Both the tiles tiles are found under ‘City, city, city, city’”

This paragraph is quite confusing. It needs a new paragraph before the sentence that begins with ‘Both’ and preferably the word ‘below’ included in the sentence. It might be better to put the new paragraph underneath the tile examples and include the word ‘above’.


Page 95 – The title ‘fêtes’ needs a capital ‘F’.


I think that's about it for now Smiley
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« Reply #232 on: December 15, 2008, 03:29:41 am »

...Done. Used *, #, $ and §...
What about page 67 Cry
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« Reply #233 on: December 15, 2008, 09:20:05 pm »

Hi MJ! real nice job there!!

i want you to know if it was legitimate, to add the "MOVE THE WOOD" quick reference style.
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« Reply #234 on: December 16, 2008, 01:32:23 am »

Hi MJ! real nice job there!!

i want you to know if it was legitimate, to add the "MOVE THE WOOD" quick reference style.
If you mean that you want me to add one—maybe  Grin
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« Reply #235 on: December 16, 2008, 01:40:20 am »

...Done. Used *, #, $ and §...
What about page 67 Cry
Oops. Brain-dead. Great movie, that.

Anyway, added @ and € for p. 67  Wink
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« Reply #236 on: December 16, 2008, 02:55:29 am »

Matt - I love this new updated version. Thank you for your hard work Smiley

I have proof read the new version. Here are the corrections, IMO, needed:

Page 19 – Footnote 36: It might be useful to explain that this tile was reprinted for later RGG editions and might well be included in some players’ sets.

EDIT:
Haven't looked at 5.0b3 yet, but you may want to add something to footnote 36 saying that that CRCR tile has since had a later version printed in some boxed versions of I&C, as well as in the Big Box.
- sorry, missed that.
OK.

Page 20 – Footnote 42 (and also pictured example): Actually, the footnote is wrong. The Big Box rules are correct. The city does indeed score 24 points. The 2nd pennant is obscured by the follower on the tile, the tile being the only ‘cccf’ tile in that arrangement and that includes a pennant. So at present it is the CAR that is incorrect here.
Notice that recently too, thanks to a comment on BGG. Already corrected. Pretty dumb image, though.

Page 47 – Paragraph 4: “…reason for this is that, unlike all the other expansions described here, the GQ11 expansion is the product of Rio Grande Games. It may be possible to use the tile as if it were a pig-herd tile, but this would be a house rule, rather than an official rule”

This is now not unlike all the other expansions (CS&C is a product of RGG also). Also, as a side note, this is a perfect place to show an unofficial house rule off in a shaded box Smiley
Corrected. May add the house rule in later  Wink

Page 69 – “Question: When the two River sets are combined, should we make two rivers (using the two spring) or discard one spring and one lake and make just one river? Answer: One spring and one lake are discarded”.

To be consistent with the previous footnote (31) an ‘s’ needs adding after ‘spring’.
Done.

Page 71 – The colour of the text changes on this page. Not a major problem, I know.
Um, does it? I can't find that in the original… More info, please!

Page 72 – “The three tiles above are all grouped under different sections, even though they may all be used to connect two city segments on the left and right. Both the tiles tiles are found under ‘City, city, city, city’”

This paragraph is quite confusing. It needs a new paragraph before the sentence that begins with ‘Both’ and preferably the word ‘below’ included in the sentence. It might be better to put the new paragraph underneath the tile examples and include the word ‘above’.
Corrected, and changed 'left' and 'right' to 'top' and 'bottom'.

Page 95 – The title ‘fêtes’ needs a capital ‘F’.
Well spotted!

I think that's about it for now Smiley
Thanks! Keep 'em comin'  Grin
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« Reply #237 on: December 16, 2008, 06:16:50 am »

I like the introduction which has the 1st vs 2nd vs 3rd edition rules.

On page 66, there is a # used for the footnote for the Big Follower as well as "# of pennants" for the Mayor.  That's a bit confusing.

There are also a large number of blanks on page 66 and 67.  I think some of them can be filled in with "no" (perhaps of a different colour to differentiate them from the clarified "no"es - in grey perhaps?) - for example, a mayor cannot be placed in a cloister.  The general note about blanks being "no"es is on page 68 which is a couple of pages from 66.
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« Reply #238 on: December 16, 2008, 10:26:04 am »

I like the introduction which has the 1st vs 2nd vs 3rd edition rules.
Good. Glad it works.

On page 66, there is a # used for the footnote for the Big Follower as well as "# of pennants" for the Mayor.  That's a bit confusing.
OK. Changed it to ß.

There are also a large number of blanks on page 66 and 67.  I think some of them can be filled in with "no" (perhaps of a different colour to differentiate them from the clarified "no"es - in grey perhaps?) - for example, a mayor cannot be placed in a cloister.  The general note about blanks being "no"es is on page 68 which is a couple of pages from 66.
Hmm. For that I'd have to go through everything in detail, and it's dwitworth's piece really. I'll move the general note to the front, though.
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« Reply #239 on: December 16, 2008, 06:39:42 pm »

Hi MJ! real nice job there!!

i want you to know if it was legitimate, to add the "MOVE THE WOOD" quick reference style.
If you mean that you want me to add one—maybe  Grin

Only if it it is legitimate, and some others players thought it COULD be useful.
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