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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2008, 02:07:20 am »

Maybe so, but it certainly adds an element of "strategery"!
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2008, 04:21:14 am »

I'll throw my 2 cents in on this issue.  I prefer to count the pigs as a heard despite the ruling its not and we play the house as an Inn for double points. As was noted earlier no rules were supplied with the tiles and expansion or not I think this would fall under House Rules or a variant with people agreeing at the beginning of the game whether or not to count them as such.  IMHO why have a picture of a pig herd and an Inn by some water that closely resembles elements from HiG if they are not to be counted as such. So maybe Matt can clarify in the CAR that these tiles did not come with ruls or clarifications, site and correspondance with GQ11 and RGG on official rulings but leave the question open to House Rules. It is much less confusing to me to count them as they appear then to say this is and this isn't and have everyone squinting at tiles.

Although this option my be inappropriate but maybe put the weight of CC to work and make a decision within the forum and put it to a vote and include that as a footnote to the CAR on the ruling for these cards.

FYI these we be perfect tiles for the Section on Problem tiles suggested in another posting  Wink
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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2008, 07:36:01 am »

It would be the same as, dare I say it, having two or more 'Inn on the Lake' tiles on a stretch of road, it only scores as if one is on the road, or two cathedrals in a city, again only one is scored (or not in both cases...  Laughing).
Exactly the right comparison, I'd say.

I am not so sure. It seems to me that The Inn on the Lake and the Cathedral are both multiplicative tiles in that they multiply the value of every tile in the Road or City respectively, whereas pigs and pigherd tile(s) are additive features, as they merely 'add one' to the point value of each connected city.

We use both pigherd tiles which has led to farms with cities worth 6 points each (3 base + pig + 2 pigherd tiles).

Power to the farmers I say :-)
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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2008, 09:40:42 am »

It seems to me that The Inn on the Lake and the Cathedral are both multiplicative tiles in that they multiply the value of every tile in the Road or City respectively, whereas pigs and pigherd tile(s) are additive features, as they merely 'add one' to the point value of each connected city.
But the fact that pigs and pig-herd tiles can be added together is only due to the fact that they're different—one's a meeple, the other a tile.

Also, I'm not convinced that the inn and the cathedral are multipliers. The cathedral adds a single point to every city segment (from 2 to 3), and so does the inn (although you could argue that it doubles the value from 1 to 2). AFAIK, the only strictly multiplicative factor in the game is the Cathar tile, which doubles the value for farms…
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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2008, 10:51:17 am »

Also, as Matt pointed out earlier, there is a precedent in T&B of reusing the Inn artwork without the lake at the end of that bridge. That should be enough to lay this issue to rest, leaving just the pig herd issue to moan and groan about.
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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2008, 11:00:40 am »

Matt: Could you ask HiG about the road ending at an inn (without the river) from A&M?  Does the inn count as an inn on that tile?
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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2008, 11:22:52 am »

Matt: Could you ask HiG about the road ending at an inn (without the river) from A&M?  Does the inn count as an inn on that tile?
This house doesn't look like an inn.
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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2008, 02:16:59 pm »

I'm as sure as I can be that it isn't an inn—it isn't even credited as being a house in the rules…
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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2008, 06:24:38 pm »

It sounds like somebody needs to make a building identification guide. Grin
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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2008, 08:00:50 pm »

Yay for building identification guide... does it go in the CAR?
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