Trebuchet expansion

[Trebuchet]

found some time to redo the tile art. i personally find them quite all right    share yr thoughts.



Next up the Ballista tiles.

Am still working on the rules, writing them as a draft in the Carc template but it takes more time as I had forseen to be substantial for a revision.

Moreover i might add a section where black tower expansion is involved (not sure yet, need to play first)

Come to think of that how many trebuchet tiles do you reckon would be fit for 2, 3, 4 players playing w/ tower expansion?

[Talisinbear]

I like

as for Black expansion, make it where if it is used a trebuchet may shoot in all 8 directions. Simple and done 

[Trebuchet]

Version one of Trebuchet rules is replaced

[Trebuchet]

And the Trebuchet tile art too

[jcardwell3rd]

Version one of Tower Down rules can be found here

Opening story *Now and thEn*

[Trebuchet]

Opening story *Now and thEn*
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thanks, all spelling corrections are welcome and will be corrected (i'm Dutch so english is not my native language)

rgds michel

[jcardwell3rd]

Opening story *Now and thEn*

thanks, all spelling corrections are welcome and will be corrected (i'm Dutch so english is not my native language)

rgds michel
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I am horrible at spelling/grammar as well and it is my native language lol.

[Nweeky]

Interesting ideas and artwork . Here's my two cents.

We've always found the tower expansion to be too powerful and game changing to be played exactly by the rules. That's why we're usually limiting the number of tower blocks to reduce the tower control area and allow relatively big feature building. Since it's not exactly by the books it has bothered me somewhat and I've looked forward to an expansion such as this to limit the effectiveness of the tower.

However, with that in mind, the rule that the blocks return to your supply once demolished does exactly the opposite! As I see it, circulating tower blocks will effectively prevent high towers from being formed (as to be able to soar high it would have to be on the board for quite a while, but with the trebutchets it would be targeted long before that) and instead favour small towers everywhere. Since the circulating tower blocks amout in supplies would be practically limitless it would make the tower game changing effect even worse. So please, no 'return-to-supply' function for the blocks. And if it's permanently removing blocks from play it'd make sense for it to be quite a bit smaller in tile count than tower (so that every tower base cant be countered with a trebutchet of it's own). 8 tiles sounds about right  .

How about simply changing the expansion name to trebutchet? Oh yea, this is my 1st post. Been lurking around here for years (I've the same nick in BGG too).

[Trebuchet]

So please, no 'return-to-supply' function for the blocks. And if it's permanently removing blocks from play it'd make sense for it to be quite a bit smaller in tile count than tower (so that every tower base cant be countered with a trebutchet of it's own). 8 tiles sounds about right  .

Nweeky, thanks so much for your feedback! Like you we too play the tower with homegrown restrictions. I must say the permanent removal of blocks have not for one moment crossed my mind. It is indeed an excellent way of reducing tower control on the map, which was the aim of designing this expansion. So I'm all for it! I'll wait and see what others might think about this option.

How about simply changing the expansion name to trebuchet?

Yes, Trebuchet has a better ring to it hasn't it? I think i'll go along with that too 

[Nweeky]

Yes, Trebuchet has a better ring to it hasn't it? I think i'll go along with that too 

Naming an expansion by the feature on the new tiles sounds more carcassonne-ish to me, rather than naming after what it does. Nearly all of the official expansions seem to be following this naming pattern.

I dont know if I brought it out too clearly, but the point was that when you're playing the tower expansion normally you've only so many tower-pieces and can capture an equal amount of meeples with them. If the blocks circulate through the trebutchet function back into the supplies the same tower blocks can be used to capture meeples over and over again, thus boosting the tower's effect.

[Trebuchet]

Yes, that's what i understood. You basically are creating more wood in the game bringing back wood in supplies if that isn't dealt with in the rules. I in a way thought of simular problems and came up with the ballista tiles to be able to re-destroy any rebuilt tower previously destroyed by a trebuchet earlier in the game. But that ofcourse wouldn't undo the fact of what you're rightfully are stating of creating even more wood (thus capturing of followers). So taking the wood out of the game clearly would be a better option. Some test playing should show whether or not the Tower expansion vs Trebuchet expansion will be in balance so to speak.

All the same: a very smart observation of this weak spot in the first version.   

[Trebuchet]

Pleased to announce the second version as a draft
(previously posted URL's are made unavailable)

Trebuchet tiles are to be found here

Trebuchet rules V0.2 are to be found here

[Trebuchet]

@ scott newer rules version in the making

[Scott]

Yeah, I suspected this was still in the draft/review stage so I won't be adding it to the downloads. I'm leaving that for you to do when it's finalized.