Hi all,
first off, thank you, thank you, thank you to Matt Harper and all his helpers for compiling the CAR. I only recently rediscovered Carcassonne and was at first a bit overwhelmed by all the new expansions which appeared since I last played the game several years ago. It was mainly thanks to the CAR that I was able to make sense of all the interactions between the different expansions.
After lurking around this site for a few weeks (mainly in the variant workshop
) I'd like to help out with a few comments and corrections for the newest version of the CAR now. I sincerely hope that they will be deemed useful.
Here goes:
p. 3 (Introduction), first paragraph, line 2: It should read "Cult, Siege and Creativity" instead of "Cult, War and Creativity".
p. 23 (T&B), footnote 51 states that during the double turn, "a figure can only be moved to Carcassonne (Count) once". On Page 30 (Count) however, the last sentence in the section "Deploying followers to and from Carcassonne", it says "If a played has a double turn - because of the builder - a follower may be deployed to Carcassonne in both parts of the turn." Since the latter is a quote from the official rules (as confirmed in footnote 71), footnote 51 is incorrect.
p. 29 (Count): On top of the page it says "originally released in 2004". On the same page, footnote 61 states "originally released in 2003". I believe 2004 is correct.
p. 31 (Count), footnotes 76 and 77 (also p. 53, footnote 179 and p. 54, footnote 185): I disagree with this statement. The rules for A&M clearly state that "No farmer may be deployed to a farm with a barn" (see CAR p. 54). IMHO, this should be true from the moment the farm is placed. It would mean that you can *never* add another farmer to a farm with a barn, except by connecting farms that *already* have farmers on them. That should certainly be true for end of game scoring, and it would only be consistent to extend it to the rest of the game as well.
p. 41 (River II), footnote 118: It should read "They have also been reformatted…" instead of "be reformatted"
p. 42 (River II), first paragraph: How about adding a footnote here, about the discrepancy between this sentence (player who placed the volcano may take another tile because he's not allowed to place a follower on the tile) and the general rules for P&D. Following the River II rules, a player should always be allowed to draw another tile after placing a volcano. Following P&D rules however, players are allowed to place all figures apart from followers, so there's really no need for drawing a second tile. IMHO, that makes the River II volcano rule obsolete.
p. 49 (A&M), footnote 151: It should be stated clearly here that the wagon is a follower while the barn is not (as it's mentioned in several places elsewhere throughout the document).
p. 53 (A&M), footnote 179: The answer should begin, "Yes: now that farms are not only scored…" instead of "Yes: now that farms are only scored…" (unless this whole statement is removed altogether, see above)
p. 59 (Cult), first paragraph under "The siege": The last sentence should read "Do they constitute a new expansion or not?" instead of "…of not?"
p. 61 (Catapult), first paragraph under "the fête": Third sentence should start "The player whose turn" instead of "The player who turn".
p. 62 (Catapult), archery paragraph: The last sentence should read "in the case of a tie, each tied player earns 5 points" instead of "each tied player 5 points".
p. 65 (rules summary), line "princess tile": the princess can remove *followers* (including mayor and wagon as stated in footnote 165), not just knights
p. 67 (special figures summary), line "deploy to farm?" needs "yes" for pig and barn
p. 67 (special figures summary), line "value for majority?": I doubt that the barn has any value. The rules never specify any barn value (rather saying that the player with *farmer majority* earns the points), and even more importantly it is not a follower, and usually only followers count towards the majority.
p. 68 (neutral figures summary): the tower blocks cannot be captured by other towers, nor can they be eaten by the dragon. The "yes" here would refer to followers on the tower, which is not what this table is all about.
p. 69 (mega-carc), third-to-last paragraph: first line should read "a game of mega-Carcassonne need not be ended until…" instead of "need not be played until".
And finally I'd like to add a comment on the "depreciated rules" section from the CAR V4.1, since I don't know whether that will be included in the final release of V5 as well:
p. 53, question 30: The fairy can *never* be moved next to the dragon for the simple reason that it must always be moved next to a follower (and followers cannot be moved next to the dragon).
Last but not least, it would be very much appreciated if an updated version of the figures and scoring overview (p.45/46) from V4.1 could also be added to V5.
Keep up the GREAT work!
Hester
