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« Reply #210 on: December 12, 2008, 02:42:17 am » |
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« Reply #211 on: December 12, 2008, 03:01:13 am » |
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This is the major problem of including fan-made expansions within the CAR: Where do they get the tiles from? I know that they could be pointed to a link from within the CAR, but this is not ideal. The CAR already contains (ver 4.1) variants from the official site, that do not require ant extra tiles or pieces. This is why the suggestion for Invasion of Catharism was given, as it does not need anything extra, it is just made up from official tiles that form part of the rules within the CAR. What I was saying is if variants were to be included then lets have some of the fan-made ones from here that do not have any need for anything else other than a simple set up (perhaps extra playing pieces, but not tiles). If one includes Forests, then you also need to include 150 new land tiles to go with it. The inclusion becomes useless for those not able to download the tiles. I wouldn't even think that Jousting Tournament would warrant an inclusion due to the fact that it needs one tile in order to be played. I do like the idea of a house rules section though  |
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« Reply #212 on: December 12, 2008, 03:14:37 am » |
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Agree, Joff. After all, House Rules are a kind of variant rules, right?
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« Reply #213 on: December 12, 2008, 03:17:47 am » |
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Good discussion. I'm inclined to think we should stick with house rules and no-tile expansions for the CAR. But I'm happy to follow the wishes of the community… keep the discussion up! On other topics, I uploaded today a new draft of the CAR (5.0b2). It's only the low-quality version, so don't go printing it yet  . I included the new expansions, revised introduction, expanded tile reference, and hopefully correced every reference to RGG's use of 1st edition scoring. @wicke: I haven't gone through your corrections yet  . Just wanted to get a version uploaded for people to have a look at. But your notes are the very next thing on my list As usual, if any comments are greatly appreciated. |
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« Reply #214 on: December 12, 2008, 04:56:47 am » |
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Just a correction: Page 61 has a mistake in the footnote concerning the first letter of the sentence: it is stuck in the superscript.
I also assume that the FAQ for Catapult will be coming in shortly from HiG because there is pretty much none on the page. I will read all of the rules in more detail later. Cheers!
Edit: Also, I don't think I saw the Catapult artwork on the first page and, despite all our misgivings over the expansion, I believe the artwork deserves to be on the front with the other dozen or so expansions. I forgot to check for the Cult, Siege, Creativity expansion, but that should be on there too.
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« Reply #215 on: December 12, 2008, 07:08:00 am » |
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Footnote 202: the word 'off' is split.
I love the section on Mega-Carc and the new Introduction. Will print out later and do a proof-read.
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« Reply #216 on: December 12, 2008, 07:33:10 am » |
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The CAR already contains (ver 4.1) variants from the official site, that do not require any extra tiles or pieces. This is why the suggestion for Invasion of Catharism was given, as it does not need anything extra, it is just made up from official tiles that form part of the rules within the CAR. Just to make a point... and this is only my opinion, I have never thought that the majority of the 'official' variants were any good. One or two maybe, but certainly not all of them. I think it would be a good idea to add some variety, rather than just the 'official' variants and I do think that there is space for the inclusion of variants. Perhaps just a discussion about the different types of fan made expansions could be included. However, as I have said before, the CAR is my Carcassonne bible and I would love to have as many Carcassonne related extras included as possible... (i'm greedy like that!!!) |
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« Reply #217 on: December 12, 2008, 08:24:26 am » |
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... the CAR is my Carcassonne bible .... Be careful ...Not wishing to keep up the Bible comparison (it's a little irreverent and accords me a dubious position)... @Matt: Thank you very much for a beautiful present under Christmas tree. Perfect achievement for our community. Thanks again. Only: Footnotes continues from 202 on page 62 to 1 to 4 on page 66; 5,6 on page 67 to 203 on page 85 etc. |
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« Reply #218 on: December 12, 2008, 08:34:02 am » |
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... the CAR is my Carcassonne bible .... Be careful ...Not wishing to keep up the Bible comparison (it's a little irreverent and accords me a dubious position)... Fortunately, my ' Carcassonne bible' reference is slightly different that Matt's 'Bible comparison' statement, Matt's comments coming from a different use and context of the word 'Bible' (which is indeed irreverant) |
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« Reply #219 on: December 12, 2008, 08:44:39 am » |
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...slightly different... OK, I see. Merry Christmas, fröhliche Weihnachten P.S. Next days I will be spending without PC far from electricity, but with Carcassonne game (with complete set of tiles) |
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« Reply #220 on: December 12, 2008, 08:45:58 am » |
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s/bible/living rulebook, perhaps?
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« Reply #221 on: December 12, 2008, 09:31:30 am » |
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@Matt: Thank you very much for a beautiful present under Christmas tree. Perfect achievement for our community. Thanks again. My pleasure Only: Footnotes continues from 202 on page 62 to 1 to 4 on page 66; 5,6 on page 67 to 203 on page 85 etc.
Those aren't footnotes—they're references to the table, and occur several times within the table itself. It would be a real pain to turn them into footnotes |
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« Reply #222 on: December 12, 2008, 10:08:37 am » |
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It would be a real pain to turn them into footnotes Sure? OK But, what about to use letters (greek? or roman numbers) Another.
I would recommend to add small table for fête tiles to Symbols & Features chapter. EDIT: Sorry, I am a little stupid at the end of working days ... |
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« Reply #223 on: December 12, 2008, 11:18:36 am » |
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It would be a real pain to turn them into footnotes Sure? OK But, what about to use letters (greek? or roman numbers) Done. Used *, #, $ and §. Another.
I would recommend to add small table for fête tiles to Symbols & Features chapter.
EDIT: Sorry, I am a little stupid at the end of working days ...
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« Reply #224 on: December 12, 2008, 11:40:35 am » |
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Uploaded 5.0b3, incorporating the comments left here and those sent to me by wicke—about 20-odd corrections throughout. Things still to do - I think a page about CarcassonneCental would be good. If the CAR—and the other downloads—are to be made publicly available, then a little advertising to draw people here would probably be fair enough - Revamped Overview and Summary - FAQ for latest expansions (?) - House rules section. Anything else? |
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