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« on: July 26, 2009, 08:39:25 pm »

I mentioned that I had a few more ideas up my sleeves...here's one of them! Here's another entirely new expansion. This one introduces a few new elements and is somewhat complicated. It allows for explorers and the discovery of an entirely separate playing area...along with a map that reveals what lies ahead. Click the links below to find out more...  

New Discoveries Rules:  http://www.mediafire.com/?edfmwdiw4xs47dc
New Discoveries Tiles and Tokens:  http://www.mediafire.com/?lwlt1iwhmvl

Here's a picture of one of the new elements...

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 10:05:46 pm »

Wow, I think meepleater is on to something.  Are you an insomniac?  Grin

If you don't mind, would you include a brief description for me again?  Thanks.

The tile is pretty nice.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 10:25:03 pm »

I really like this expansion- just a question, if no-one claims the mountain, is the lake still played? I really like all of the tiles included here...
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 11:08:16 pm »

if no-one claims the mountain, is the lake still played?

In the event that the mountain is not claimed, then no, the lake would not be played.  However, the likelihood of this happening is not very high since the option moves on to the other players if one is unable to deploy a follower to the mountain.

If you don't mind, would you include a brief description for me again?

This one is a bit more complicated, but I will certainly give it a try. There's 3 new elements... a tile featuring a map icon, the ability to deploy an Explorer, and the discovery of a new, uninhabited area (the tile pictured above).

First, the map icon. When a tile featuring the map icon is drawn, it "reveals what lies ahead". Depending on the number of players, anywhere between 8-12 tiles are drawn from the draw pile and placed face up. These will be the next tiles used by all players. Players will have to choose from these tiles until they are used up.

Moving on, deploying an Explorer. Each player can deploy one Explorer during the game. This will allow players to place a tile that is only attached to another tile diagonally. As long as this tile is disconnected from the rest of the board, only that player may expand the area and earn points in the area.

Finally, when a player draws the mountain tile, they may deploy a Discoverer. That player may lay the new world tile pictured above. This tile does not need to be attached to the placed tiles in any manner at all. However, it cannot exceed a distance of 5 tile lengths. That player will own this new area. Any tile added to the new area by another player earns the discoverer 2 points. This continues until the new world is connected to the original playing area.

That's basically the gist of things. Haha, I told you it was a bit more complicated! You probably didn't expect a novel. Once again, I hope that made some bit of sense!  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2009, 11:16:12 pm »

It's good, it tells me a lot.  Thanks!  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 02:13:07 am »

Very, very clever! I like this expansion. An great example of an original idea. I love the way the Explorer works and I really love the compass chit. Excellent work. This has got to be one of my favourites for the CarcCentral expansion ideas!

First off, the mountain tile could easily be in the Lord of the Rings: The Hobbit expansion as 'The Lonely Mountain' Wink

Just one point: how is the New World placed 5 tiles away from the rest of the tiles? You might need an example of this and perhaps a definite way to measure.

"As soon as a player deploys a follower to the mountain as a Discoverer, they must immediately place the large (2x2) new world
tile. The new world tile does not have to connect to any previously placed tiles. The only requirement is that it
must be placed no further than 5 tile lengths from a previously placed tile."


Because the rules for placing the Explorer are somewhat different in this expansion the rules might be interpreted differently. I present the following examples. The first three place the New World tile 5 tile lengths from the another previously placed tile (I suspect the first placement is legal and the other two not allowed because the requirement is to be able to connect to the tiles (sorry for the large size of these examples):

 



Because of the way the Explorer can be placed, here are three other examples that place the New World 5 tile lengths away that might be good to clarify against:

   
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 05:46:14 am »

Could you do me a favour? I would appreciate it if you could split the lake up into four separate tiles (like the city in The Count). Sorry if it's any trouble, but it's easier to make them if you only have singular blank tiles... if you don't have the time then that's perfectly fine...
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2009, 09:29:47 am »

Could you do me a favour? I would appreciate it if you could split the lake up into four separate tiles (like the city in The Count).

Couldn't you just cut the large one along the lines to create the 4 tiles? If that's not how you want to do it, I can probably try to create them into entirely separate images. Let me know.

And wow Joff! That's quite the collection of examples, I hope you didn't spend TOO much time on those! And you're right, the first example is the only one with legal placement. Would you mind if I used your examples to put in the rules for further clarification on the matter?
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 12:45:56 pm »

I had a few stolen moments away to look at this.  It's very interesting.  I like it!  Here are a few questions I had.  Under the Map Tiles section, you have listed the number of tiles drawn per the amount of players.  Is that right?  8,9,12,10,12.  I wasn't sure if you meant to do it that way.

After the 2x2 tile is placed, can you deploy a follower to it?  Or does it just count for farmland?

One comment about the flags.  This might be true of some of your other expansions too.  With the option to purchase the six new colors from Meeple People, I was wondering if you'd be interested in providing flag tokens in those colors.  For example, I know that Joff and Novelty have a complete set of orange meeples that they play with.  Several people have stated that they play with purple, and once the A&M meeples are available, I intend to get a set of each.  Just a suggestion. 

Yet again, a very worthy expansion.  Kudos!
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 01:05:37 pm »

Under the Map Tiles section, you have listed the number of tiles drawn per the amount of players.  Is that right?  8,9,12,10,12.

Yes, that's correct. I didn't want the number of tiles drawn to exceed 12. And, I preferred to have an even number of tiles per people playing. So, that's how the numbers worked out.

After the 2x2 tile is placed, can you deploy a follower to it?  Or does it just count for farmland?

Since a follower was already deployed as Discoverer on the same turn that the 2x2 tile is placed, an additional follower cannot be deployed to it. And though it doesn't provide any extra bonuses, it is considered when determining the scope of a farm.

One comment about the flags.  This might be true of some of your other expansions too.  With the option to purchase the six new colors from Meeple People, I was wondering if you'd be interested in providing flag tokens in those colors.

Yea, I would be willing to do that if several of you think it would be worth doing! Let me know...   Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 02:14:39 pm »

And wow Joff! That's quite the collection of examples, I hope you didn't spend TOO much time on those! And you're right, the first example is the only one with legal placement. Would you mind if I used your examples to put in the rules for further clarification on the matter?

I thought so Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2009, 09:29:02 pm »

The rules have been updated with the examples that Joff so kindly created! Thanks again.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 11:56:21 pm »

Tiles are printed and made. Terrific expansion!
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 01:06:59 pm »

Tiles are printed and made. Terrific expansion!

Wow, you seem to be quite up on printing out these new expansions. I'm impressed!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2009, 07:16:30 pm »

We played with this one last night. The new world is awesome. I made a bunch of points off of it from other players playing pieces there for a double turn. Excellent expansion. We all loved it.

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