Carcassonne - Das Schicksalsrad NEW

[CKorfmann]

The one weird thing is that Jay didn't seem to know that it replaces the base game. He corrected me twice, stating it is just an expansion, so either he hasn't seen it, or HiG has been telling him misinformation.

I doubt he doesn't know what's going on.  I was in contact with him recently about purchasing spare parts and he mentioned something about going to meet with HiG soon.  Since that was probably about two months ago, I think it's safe to assume that this expansion was what they would be meeting about.  I think think his remarks were in response to my suggestion that he offer ideas from our fan-made list if they get stuck.  That's probably another whole can of worms, but how cool would it be if they wanted to use one of ours?   

I suppose his confusion wouldn't be totally out of the question though since he did send me Carc:City towers rather than Tower expansion pieces I aske for to make the Black Tower, but hey, nobody's perfect!    I guess I'll have to figure out a use for them.

[mjharper]

I'm also interested in an English translation of the book. Don't particularly care if it's bundled with the game or sold separately.

I wonder what the legalities are of translating books to English. Can the translations be freely distributed?

Not without permission, I think.

I guess you're wondering whether a fan-based translation would be possible, right?

[mjharper]

In an attempt to have some division of labour concerning the new expansion I'd like to suggest the following:

• General discussion (RGG, the book and so on) should take place in this one, the original thread
• Suggestions for FAQ should be posted here
• Discussion of the translation of the rules themselves should take place in this thread

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Oh, and I took look at the back of the wheel tile, and was pleasantly surprised:



The full size scan is here, and I'll upload it to BGG as well.

Anyway, that could solve certain issues with German wording, although you'd have to put it to one side and not use it as the starting tile (a rather obvious 'home rule' I've already added to the CAR). But it might also be quite nice to make a transparent version of the wheel and see if we can come up with some desktops or something...

Thanks, and sorry for the double-post.

[Scott]

I guess you're wondering whether a fan-based translation would be possible, right?

Yes.

[mjharper]

I guess you're wondering whether a fan-based translation would be possible, right?

Yes.

Well, when I send in the next bunch of FAQ I'll ask. But that would be a monumental task, given the length of the book...

[Novelty]

Perhaps it might be better to contact the author direct and ask her if she has plans to get the book translated and published in English.  I found her website while searching for the expansion.  I suppose if enough people email her to ask her for an English translation, she might oblige?

Edit: Her website is at http://www.koeppel-sw.de/

[Whaleyland]

Someone posted the inside of the box finally on BGG (I requested it). He gives a preview of the rules document, which appears to have a separate section for the Wheel of Fate rules. Also, it appears that there is a strange crown logo on the start space on the scoreboard. Mr. Harper, you never mentioned that little addition. Is there any note of it in the rules? Or does it appear to be just a marker designating the starting space?

[mjharper]

Someone posted the inside of the box finally on BGG (I requested it). He gives a preview of the rules document, which appears to have a separate section for the Wheel of Fate rules.

Because most of the rules for The Wheel of Fate are needed at that point - between 1a and 1b. The other 'new' rules, such as using the Wheel Tile as starting tile are also listed at the points they would arise, and are highlighted in the same colour. The idea is just to make it easier for experienced players to find the new rules.

Also, it appears that there is a strange crown logo on the start space on the scoreboard. Mr. Harper, you never mentioned that little addition. Is there any note of it in the rules? Or does it appear to be just a marker designating the starting space?

Yeah, sorry. I kept telling myself I should mention that, and then kept forgetting. As far as I can see, the crown maker in the corner is the only difference between this and the original score-board, and it is not mentioned in the rules at all. It's a purely cosmetic change, and that's why it kept slipping my mind.

[Whaleyland]

For those of you who can read German or want a look at the rules, Hans im Glück finally has a page up for Wheel of Fate, and they include a copy of the rules in .pdf format. Check it out here. HiG is calling it a spin-off and places it in the spin-off section of their site. I'm not sure what that really means officially, but it seems they are treating and marketing it as a stand-alone game rather than an expansion.

[Wishmaster]

So, am I correct in saying that the only difference from this set and the standard game set is as follows:

A 4 x 4 tile (Wheel of fate)
A wooden pig to move on above
Some additional rules.

If that's the case then I really hope this gets issued just with those parts as well as the complete thing.

[Novelty]

So, am I correct in saying that the only difference from this set and the standard game set is as follows:

There are also about 20 tiles with the wheel icon on them.

[CKorfmann]

There are also a few tile configurations that are different from the original.  Some that are included in other sets. 

[meepleater]

Also, it appears that there is a strange crown logo on the start space on the scoreboard. Mr. Harper, you never mentioned that little addition. Is there any note of it in the rules? Or does it appear to be just a marker designating the starting space?

Yeah, sorry. I kept telling myself I should mention that, and then kept forgetting. As far as I can see, the crown maker in the corner is the only difference between this and the original score-board, and it is not mentioned in the rules at all. It's a purely cosmetic change, and that's why it kept slipping my mind.

It's not the only difference- I'm pretty sure my base game has the spaces on the scoreboard grey, instead of brown...

[Novelty]

It's not the only difference- I'm pretty sure my base game has the spaces on the scoreboard grey, instead of brown...

Perhaps the Australian version is grey.  I have both version thanks to a US Big Box 2.  Here's a picture of them side by side.

[meepleater]

I was just wondering if some sets came with brown tiles to match the scoreboard.

I hope that the scoreboard from Das Schicksalsrad doesn't change to grey as well, I prefer the brown one...