In the Stocks

[Joff]

Is the tile ok, apart from the mists issue? What about the icon?

[Novelty]

I like the icon because I think it makes it stand out.  Without the icon, the tile will be lost, especially in a mega-carc game.

The other issue I have is that on the right of the tile, the market building in front seems to be built on the same foundation as the misty building behind, but that's a minor issue that's not really visible unless one's a pedant

[Joff]

Contrast adjusted:



Icon behind buildings or in corner?

[Novelty]

Either is fine I think, but I prefer it behind buildings.

[Joff]

...and decided to increase the tile content to 4 tiles with stocks.

[Joff]

Latest draft rules:

In the Stocks Ver 02.5 draft

Edit: These rules have now been rewritten, see post below next one!

[Joff]

One small problem with increasing the tiles with stocks to 4 is that the rules need a slight rewrite. With 4 tiles you can connect up to 4 stocks into a city which would allow all 4 stocks to be used at once! This might not be good.

The difficulties of being an expansion author!!! What does one do? 

Increase to 4 tiles?... stick with 2?... stay safe in the middle with 3? 

[Joff]

I have now rewritten the rules document to account for there being 4 stocks tiles.

In the Stocks Ver 02.5 draft

In the 'Preparation' section I have given this clarification:

"For a game involving basic Carcassonne but no more than 1 expansion, it’s suggested that you use 2 tiles with stocks. For a game involving more than 1 but no more than 3 expansions, it’s suggested that you use 3 tiles with stocks. For all other games, use all 4 tiles.
At the beginning of the game, mix the extra tiles in with the other regular tiles."

Does this sound OK?

[Novelty]

So if I play with the basic game, archery tournament, jousting tournament, orders of chivalry and Friar and Farmhands, I use all 4 tiles?

[Joff]

My rules are based on 'official' expansions only. However, as Cathars, GQ, River, Count etc. are official, a rewording might be necessary.

[Joff]

How's this?

"For a game involving basic Carcassonne but no more than 1 large expansion,[footnote] it’s suggested that you use 2 tiles with stocks. For a game involving more than 1 but no more than 3 large expansions, it’s suggested that you use 3 tiles with stocks. For all other games using 4 or more large expansions, it’s suggested that you use all 4 tiles."

The [footnote] being:

Large expansions in the Carcassonne series are: Inns and Cathedrals, Traders and Builders, The Princess and the Dragon, The Tower, Abbey and Mayor and The Catapult. However, this is a suggestion only and you may play with all 4 tiles should you wish to.

[Joff]

And updated rules, including changed examples showing the newer stocks tile, instead of old version:

In the Stocks Ver 02.6 draft

[Novelty]

How about something to the effect of

Use at least 2 tiles with stocks as a minimum.  You may add an extra tile for every 2 of the following expansions Inns and Cathedrals, Traders and Builders, The Princess and the Dragon, The Tower, Abbey and Mayor and The Catapult, (i.e 3 tiles with 2 of these expansions, 4 tiles total with 4 or more expansions) up to a maximum of 4 tiles with stocks.

[Joff]

Thanks, that would lose me a footnote, and so I have amended the rules

[Novelty]

Personally I think IMO you should get rid of using the stocks more than once.  This is especially true if there are 4 tiles as you pointed out.