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Author Topic: Completely Annotated Rules - work in progress!  (Read 381252 times)
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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2008, 12:59:08 pm »

I'll just add my vote for the change to put the latest rule in the body of the text and the history/clarification in the footnotes.

We need a reference to the rules where it is quick easy to get an authoritive answer and that change will help.

I also support Scott's point about the river turns and requestr the same footnote. This is one case where the RGG rule makes more sense.

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« Reply #136 on: February 09, 2008, 03:13:03 am »

It's interesting that the recommendation not to use Count with River(s) stems from the earlier addition of the "immediate" qualifier to the word "u-turns". If they had not added "immediate", there would have been no problem. The RGG rules don't include the word "immediate". We've always played no u-turns at all, and I have been challenged on that.
'Stem' might be too strong a word… that's just how I see it. There may be no causal connection at all.

As a consolation, I would very much like to see a footnote attached to this recommending against u-turns of any kind to prevent potential problems.
You know I can't do that Wink As someone pointed out earlier/elsewhere, the fork of The River II builds U-turns into the game; and the more river tiles you use (through the combination of expansions), the more difficult it will be to avoid U-turns altogether.

What I can do is put a footnote explaining that 'immediate' is derived from an FAQ; and point out that the original rule was intended to prevent all possible difficulties. The immediate rule makes laying easier, but can still lead to difficulties, and so it's a commonly accepted 'house rule' to stick with the original and ban U-turns completely.

Something like that…
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« Reply #137 on: February 09, 2008, 04:40:52 am »

One or two more cosmetic minor corrections:

Page 3 - Introduction, "1st and 3rd edition scoring? What's that?" Paragraph 6: Should a '?' follow the "Why" question?

Page 6 - Footnote 1: "HiG" should be in bold.

Page 35 - Footnote 97: "If" should not be in bold.

Page 40 - Footnote 118: "Consort" should be "Consorts".

I think that's about it... Smiley
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« Reply #138 on: February 09, 2008, 04:47:08 am »

Page 3 - Introduction, "1st and 3rd edition scoring? What's that?" Paragraph 6: Should a '?' follow the "Why" question?
What 'Why' question?  Huh?
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« Reply #139 on: February 09, 2008, 04:49:26 am »

If indeed it is a question? "... the 1st edition rules. Why, no-one is quite sure, but..."

Perhaps this is not a question after all Wink My English is not so good.
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« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2008, 04:56:44 am »

No, that's not a question  Wink I'll change it to 'No-one is quite sure why, but…' though.
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« Reply #141 on: February 09, 2008, 05:21:47 am »

Different topic.

There's an interview with the author at http://carcassonne.de/autor.htm; I could translate that for inclusion (in the Introduction?) if people want.
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« Reply #142 on: February 09, 2008, 05:31:21 am »

That would be of interest to Carcassonne players. I for one would like to read the interview Smiley
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« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2008, 12:23:05 pm »

That would be of interest to Carcassonne players. I for one would like to read the interview Smiley
Me too!

One small point of editing the CAR:
Is the word "meeple" used anywhere in the official rules? I can't find it, but inthe CAR it appears in some footnotes in both questions and answers. Might it be wise to replace it with "Follower" for consistency? The two questions are in Version 5.0, #77 abd #78 and answer #176.

Since it was me who submitted both questions and committed the original sin, Embarrassed  I can assure you that the questions' author would find this edit acceptable.


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« Reply #144 on: February 09, 2008, 02:43:14 pm »

Meeple is a fan invention—I changed all the references in the CAR.

btw, I just received permission to use the 'Failed Experiments in Darwinistic Urbanization' session report by James Weinrod in the CAR…  Smiley
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« Reply #145 on: February 09, 2008, 04:18:58 pm »

I would also like to see the interview in the CAR.
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« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2008, 01:02:37 am »

You guys are doing great, I'm afraid to jinx you by saying too much lol!  Not worthy
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« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2008, 07:17:45 pm »

So, I got a response from HiG this morning to a bunch of questions I asked, and here they are:
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Q9: Can the mayor, the wagon, or the barn be placed on top of a tower?
A: No, the deployment of these figures is limited to the features described in the rules.
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Matt, this Q&A did not make it into the CAR as a footnote. It seems quite an important clarification and I wonder if you might consider adding it.

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« Reply #148 on: February 11, 2008, 02:21:35 am »

Oops  Wink
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« Reply #149 on: March 30, 2008, 11:36:40 am »

DAMN!! i just DL the file and i can't open the zipped file... someone have any clue?

please hold your apples & tomatoes...
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