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« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2008, 05:21:56 am »

Terrible Meeple comedy graphics. Totally outside of the standard Carcasonne has previously set. And a tile with a fairground next to a Cloister!! No No No - That is just so wrong. The whole thing is just so out of character with the other expansions, what has gone wrong? Is there different people involved at HIG now? Not good, not good.  Sad
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« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2008, 05:34:02 am »

I should point out that this is a HiG expansion.  I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed, and I'm afraid that this may be the last Carc expansion we'll ever see...

I quite hope it is actually.
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« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2008, 06:20:27 am »

I quite hope it is actually.
It might be for the best, although I hope not...
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« Reply #93 on: November 03, 2008, 06:23:46 am »

I should point out that this is a HiG expansion.  I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed, and I'm afraid that this may be the last Carc expansion we'll ever see...

all my pals who i present those (*thing*) was really dissapointed/shocked so it won't be a must for their collection of games... i think that HiG SHALL know about this.
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« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2008, 06:30:59 am »

Well, HiG is only concerned about selling the expansion to Germans (and I suppose that covers Austrians and Swiss Germans) as that is their main market, and not to Canadians or Americans or Chinese...  I'm not sure complaining to them might work, but there is no harm trying I guess.
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« Reply #95 on: November 03, 2008, 09:24:54 am »

Yes but poor sales in other countries by the other companies will have a knock back effect for HiG as well. As I noted earlier, this has all the markings of someone different being brought in at HiG who's completely missed who the target audience has been for the game. Quite clearly the idea of shooting things about the room and comedy kiddy style meeple graphics are aimed at a much younger audience than those who have paid out for previous expansions.
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« Reply #96 on: November 03, 2008, 06:16:14 pm »

the #@$%$%?&%$%#%$*%?&$&?* problem is that we all buy that $%?&*?&&%? and raise their funds.... unless we download the copies of the tiles and stick it on the creativity tiles!!!! 0010__0100 4u kds Cheesy :-P
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« Reply #97 on: November 03, 2008, 07:17:21 pm »

I don't think HiG makes money when RGG or Lautapelit or the other publishers sell the stuff in other non-German languages.  Wishmaster, I would like to agree with your speculation, but I'm not sure if that's true.  For all we know, this catapult idea may just be something that HiG is doing to revive interest in Germany (and it might accomplish that, since I think the Germans are weird)  Well, we shall see.
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« Reply #98 on: November 03, 2008, 09:41:44 pm »

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« Reply #99 on: November 04, 2008, 01:25:26 pm »

Novelty the idea or copyright is that you get paid for any unit sof your item that are sold. So when the likes of RGG produce a Carc game they have to pay HiG for the right to do so, so yes he does get money outside Germany, like Bill Gates gets money outside the US.

As for your German comment I would put a few smilies after that as Matt is German !!! :Smiley
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« Reply #100 on: November 04, 2008, 01:37:23 pm »

As for your German comment I would put a few smilies after that as Matt is German !!! :Smiley
No I'm not—I'm English  Angry Born in Birmingham, in fact. I live in Germany and have done for 10 years though. As for Germans being wierd, well, I guess that's true (just hope my girlfriend doesn't read this post Grin)
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« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2008, 06:19:48 pm »

so in conclusion, do that expansion deserve to be buyed, ignored or copied??
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« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2008, 06:48:16 pm »

It's up to you whether you want to buy it. Even if you don't like the gameplay, it has a few unusual configurations that might make for a good game even if you don't play the rules.
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« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2008, 09:03:39 pm »

Canada Steve, Matt is a brommie and therefore not weird.  I mean, besides the Japanese, how many other places in the world would the following things be true?

1. You have to have intercourse with a radio DJ (of your choice) in an attempt to win two Madonna concert tickets
2. You get someone you love to make gay love to you, cut you up into pieces then eat you

Only in Germany I'm afraid...

Also, canada steve, what you said about copyright is actually not called copyright, but royalty.  A copyright means that you have the rights to the name or the art or whatever and that only you can make money from it (or something like that).  An agreement that lets someone else makes money from something you have copyright may involve royalties which may be calculated as a share of the profits or a once off fee, or something else.  As I understand it, German boardgame companies (being what I call weird) usually give away their permission for non-English manufacturers to make money from their copyrights, with close to nothing in return financially.  I think the one thing that they insist on is that they retain all rights to any expansions, etc. etc.  I'm not sure how much they are getting from Microsoft for the Xbox version of Carc, but I'm willing to bet it's close to peanuts.  I was told that HiG actually pays sites like BSW to host their games (which is again why I say Germans are weird).  Somehow IMO I don't think RGG is paying HiG much for the rights to publish the games in English.  Hence, that's the reason I think why HiG only needs to concentrate about selling the expansions in the German market.

I could be all wrong.  The above is just conjuncture, hearsay and suppositions.  But it does make a lot of sense to me.
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« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2008, 10:46:32 am »

Like Duhh I know which is why there was a smilie at the end of my posting about Matt. Also its Brummie, not Brommie.

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As for the expansion Deatheux I dont think I would use it if I do buy it.
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