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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2013, 07:38:06 pm »

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Only the river is separating the field. At that tile are two different features of fields.

That's odd, the FAQ here: http://carc.mjharper.de/page8/page8.html says the exact opposite, and that is also supposed to be official from HiG...
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 09:10:02 pm »

yes meepleater, but in my opinion is the most revolution, that followers can be placed at the outside from the City of Carcassonne.
That is what I already have been posted:
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The Flyer can land outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls).
The Flyer can also land outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.

The important news are:
The follower who comes through the magic gate can deployed outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls) and can also deployed outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.
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On 18 October 2012 I (kettlefish) was at Game 2012 in Essen, where I had a meeting with HiG - Georg Wild and Christof Tisch. Most of the topics I have already recounted in HiG-Chat and posted here in the forum. But the story of the dragon has not yet been told.

Since the City of Carcassonne is a special starting area, it is often assumed that the landscape areas around the actual City of Carcassonne are off limits. No one is allowed to enter these landscape areas.

Now I come to the meeting with HiG:
The fact is that the dragon cannot actually operate within the city walls of the City of Carcassonne. So there all followers are safe from the dragon.
However, the landscape areas around the walled city of Carcassonne are sort of landscape tiles. Thus, when the dragon travels his six tiles, he can be moved there.
If these landscape areas don't have a follower, pig, or builder, he is not able to eat anything and must go hungry. Nevertheless, he may be moved around the walls of the City of Carcassonne - in the landscape areas.

And here are the old FAQ from Matt:
http://carc.mjharper.de/page0/page0.html

I think there is coming more and more "new" FAQ in the next time.
I have more answers from HiG. Some are the same like all the time and some are changing the "old" FAQ.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 12:17:54 am »

The river II
The tile: GFluss5
That is a tile with a great bridge over the river and joined the city segment to one city feature.
The question at BGG was: How many fields are at the tile? Is the city-bridge separating the fields or is only the river separating the fields?

The answer:
Only the river is separating the field. At that tile are two different features of fields.

This one is in contradiction with earlier published by Matt.
http://carc.mjharper.de/page8/page8.html

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Odd tiles 
Does this tile have four farms or two? John's guess: Four. Otherwise people will start arguing about every bridge in the game!

Correct. Bridges are considered to be roads.

[Thanks to John Sweeney for this! - Matt]
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2013, 09:18:35 am »

The Flyer can land outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls).
The Flyer can also land outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.

The important news are:
The follower who comes through the magic gate can deployed outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls) and can also deployed outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.

Also, an important outcome of this clarification is that a follower fleeing the Plague can now freely enter the tiles of the City, Wheel and School. There is no conflict.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 09:20:23 am »

The Flyer can land outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls).
The Flyer can also land outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.

The important news are:
The follower who comes through the magic gate can deployed outside the City of Carcassonne (outside of the walls) and can also deployed outside the Wheel of Fortune and outside the school.

Also, an important outcome of this clarification is that a follower fleeing the Plague can now freely enter the tiles of the City, Wheel and School. There is no conflict.


But I would never become any answers from HiG about the Plague.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2013, 09:31:09 am »

The next part of the telephone call with HiG - Georg Wild:

At BGG was the question.
Dragon - Mage & Witch
Does the Dragon move on a tile where the Mage or the Witch stands? Does the Dragon eat the Mage or the Witch?

The answer:
The Dragon can move on a tile where the Mage or the Witch stands. Theese figures are having an other purpose than the Fairy.
The Dragon doesn't like to eat neutral figures. The Mage and the Witch are neutral figures, too.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 10:00:30 am »

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Question 2:
When I finish, for example, a city with a builder, and the counting follower lands on a dark number field, is only then the dispatch to the use (and possibly even more dispatches at favorable scoring) and then the turn because of the builder of the second tile?
In other words:
Which of the rules
A (dispatch): ?The active player (and only that player) gets a Dispatch tile if one of his two counting followers lands on a dark number field (0, 5, 10, 15,...).?
B (builder): ?On the next turn or a later turn, whenever the player places a tile that extends the road or city (with the builder), he then immediately draws a second tile and places it (this is the double turn and can only be performed once).?
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Answer to Question 2: Builder - double turn - Dispatch
The BigBox4 says the following about the double turn by builders:
Whenever a player places a tile that extends the road or city which includes his builder, he may take a double turn. Here, after performing the usual steps of deployment and scoring, the player draws another land tile, places it appropriately, and may then deploy another follower and carry out any necessary scoring. Then his turn ends.
BigBox4 has the following comment about the dispatches:
For each scoring round, the player gets only one dispatch ....
From the builder you have two scoring rounds.
If after the first scoring round a scoring figure of the active player lands on a dark field, he receives a dispatch. The active player performs the action of the dispatch.
Only then does the double turn happen.
As a more practical example, the player should first draw the second tile of the double turn immediately after the first scoring round, place the tile face down in his supply, then perform the dispatches-action, then turn over the face-down tile and place it. Then move wood and perform scoring. If the scoring figure is on a dark field again, the player again obtains a dispatch and performs its action.
Anyhow, that is it what I'm reading by the rules - so far, the question is not asked, so I still have not inquired further (at HiG)

obervet03 helped me with the translation.

Now it is official (telephone call with HiG- Georg Wild)

There are two scoring rounds through the double turn with the builder. After each scoring round you can get a dispatch and then perform the dispatches action. In this case are two Dispatches possible.

If you play with the fairy. Then you can get after scoring the 1 point for the fairy a Dispatch and can perform the dispatch action.

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I like more the name Dispatches than Messages. The name dispatch is near the German word (Depesche) than message (Nachricht).
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2013, 12:03:12 pm »

The telephone call with HiG - Georg Wild.

The next... That was also a question at BGG:

The CornCircles I + II:
Does the corn field separate the roads or the green fields?

Answer:

Yes the corn field is a separate feature. The corn field (CornCircle) separate roads and also the green fields.


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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2013, 02:48:11 pm »

All new answers and clarifications up to this point have been added to the newest (in-progress) version of the CAR.
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2013, 06:07:16 pm »

Hi obervet03,

There are some open questions. But the answer knows more Christof Tisch than Georg Wild.
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