3 Tile questions

[don2712]

Hi Everyone,
My wife and I are quite new to Carcassonne but we love it and try to play at least one game a night.
I have 3 questions probably very silly to the experts but I could not find anything in the forums which perhaps proves how silly they are.
We have just started playing with the river 1&2 plus Inns & Cathedrals.
Here are the questions.
In Inns & Cathedrals there is a tile referenced in the annotated rules as ccrr showing a city and road with an Inn by a lake sandwiched between them, we were unable to decide if this tile formed a barrier to a farm or if the farm passed through.
In the River 2 there is a tile ref cscs with 2 cities linked by a bridge or is this just a single city which spans the river?
Thirdly, We have found in some cases that a tile with a road fails to align with another road tile so much that instead of connecting correctly the left edge of one road aligns with the right edge of the other when the tiles are abutting squarely.
For example on a 3 way junction when you connect the tiles up to another road if you try all 3 directions only 2 will meet correctly.
We thought this might be a difference / fault in the tile printing or cutting between the main game and the expansions however, if that were the case and one road was out of alignment then surely the other 2 would also fail to align correctly.
Does this mean that there are some instances where roads can only be connected in a very specific configuration?
I think this happened on one occasion when we tried to connect a cloister with a road to a ‘T’ junction road section.
If it’s a tile fault then that is not a major problem we just want to know that we are not making an incorrect move by laying tiles that do not match properly.
Thank you
Don

[meepleater]

1. I think the farm continues past the inn...
2. Single city going across the river (btw. the field doesn't continue under the bridge, just making sure you know)
3. It is just due to tile printing errors... all roads can join to all others.

[Novelty]

The farm doesn't end at an inn, it goes around the inn.

The bridge shows up again in King (part of King and Scout), and the clarification is made there regarding how the 2 cities are connected.  (A, can you point out to me where does it say the field doesn't continue under the bridge?)

If the road goes to an edge, then it can join with another road from the edge of the tile.  It doesn't matter if it physically doesn't match.

[meepleater]

In the FAQ on this site 

EDIT: http://carc.mjharper.de/page8/page8.html#Does_this_tile_have_four_farms_

[Novelty]

Is that in the CAR?  If not, should it be?  Matt, can you shed any light on the question in the FAQ?

[CKorfmann]

btw. the field doesn't continue under the bridge, just making sure you know

That's news to me.  It would have made a big difference in my last game.  It seems a little misleading.  The art on the tile makes it appear that it should continue the farm.  I think I might just make that a house rule.

[metoth]

btw. the field doesn't continue under the bridge, just making sure you know

That's news to me.  It would have made a big difference in my last game.  It seems a little misleading.  The art on the tile makes it appear that it should continue the farm.  I think I might just make that a house rule.

We always continue the farm under that bridge tile.  "Visually" it doesn't make sense not to continue the farm.  I guess we'll just have to make it our house rule too.  (We bought some extras, so we actually have 3 copies of this tile I think.)

Marie

[mjharper]

Is that in the CAR?  If not, should it be?  Matt, can you shed any light on the question in the FAQ?

Hmm. Thought it was, but I can't find it. Judging by the confusion here, I guess it should be in the CAR...

[Johngee]

btw. the field doesn't continue under the bridge, just making sure you know

That's news to me.  It would have made a big difference in my last game.  It seems a little misleading.  The art on the tile makes it appear that it should continue the farm.  I think I might just make that a house rule.

When we first added this expansion to our games we started playing that way until one friend direted me to this web site for clarification.  It took some coercing, but we finnally got everyone to agree that the Farms do stop at the city over pass - just as if it had been a Road - even though artistically they appear to pass underneath and continue.  Personnally I like it better that way.  My primary strategy it to concentrate on the "Now Points" of Town, Roads, and Cloisters, because the women in my group weave a tangled web of interconnecting Farms that usually trump my own farmers.  I know I can count on these two tiles (from R2 and K&S) to set some boundaries. 

[Skull One]

The XBox 360 version, which was signed off on by HiG, has the farm continue under the bridge that crosses the river.  We play it that way as well since the artwork is very clear that it one piece of land.

[CKorfmann]

The XBox 360 version, which was signed off on by HiG, has the farm continue under the bridge that crosses the river.  We play it that way as well since the artwork is very clear that it one piece of land.

Now that you mention it, isn't it the same for the AsoBrain version (Toulouse)?  It seems to me like it is that way as well.

[meepleater]

Toulouse doesn't have the river expansions... does it?

[Skull One]

Toulouse does not have the either river expansion.

[CKorfmann]

Toulouse does not have the either river expansion.

Of course... not sure what I was thinking about....

[Novelty]

Maybe you were thinking of the play by email application - I know that does have rivers.