When must the trade goods, king & robber Baron be detemined?

[mdjvz]

After reading the very good link of dwhitworth (see previous subject), I wondered when are the trade goods taken & when is the longest road, biggest city determinded (and the King, Robber Baron awarded) ?

I always thought this was a part of the scoring, so AFTER deploying followers, and after probably moving the dragon...

Or was I wrong, and is this done immidiately after the tile is places??

Michiel

[Novelty]

Trade goods is obtained during (or at the same time as) the scoring of the city as contained in the T&B rules.  Likewise, I think the same for the King and Robber Baron.

[Diminuendo]

The King and Robber Baron are awarded when a city/road is completed, thus scoring is irrelevant and it doesn't really matter whether they are awarded immediately after tile placement, after deployment of followers or after moving the dragon.

[Scott]

In games that I've played, trade goods are taken immediately after tile placement, but any time after that (during the same turn) is ok too. King and Robber Baron end up being awarded during scoring because that's when we're checking the length/size. Also, I have custom scoring markers for the King and Robber Baron on the scoring track.

[mdjvz]

Well I guess it is only a matter of taste!

because the dragon cannot eat the current player, and the tower cannot capture the current player either, it doesn't matter when precisely the trade goods/Kingh/Robber Baron are awarded