Oh God, now I'm even more confused.... Novelty's telling me they're not there yet but Gantry, who's one of the boss men
is telling me how to get to them!!
Regards Carc for PC: It's Carcassonne, with the additional line of 'Ritter, Rauber, Rankeschmiede' (No doubt someone here can tell us what that bit means!). Released by Koch Media and only made available in Germany (to my knowledge). Came with a free set of The River tiles for some strange reason... although the copy I got from eBay omitted to include them (the kind soul who sold it decided not to tell me that bit!). All instructions in German as is the game but it can be chaged to English via the config file once installed.
Hunters and Gatherers was called just that (well, the German equivalent). Details as above again (No River though!!
)
The Collectors Box contained Carcassonne, Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders and (I think) one of the small expansions, as well as Hunters & Gathers. All the Carcassonne games loaded as one unit and when you play you decide what to play. Hunters loads as a completely separate program.
....and now I think about it, I'm sure I saw something somewhere about buying the expansion pack for Carc PC as a separate item (Just I&C, T&B etc) - could be wrong.
Anyway, most of that you probably already know. Byt every little helps!!