Title: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 08, 2009, 03:06:52 pm As there are more than six meeple colours available, can more than six players play the same game if there is a reasonable amount of tiles in play?
Yesterday I played with seven players total with almost two hundred tiles. Is it legal or should it be considered house rules? *It was very funny to see seven meeple markers on the one hundred points scoreboard* Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Lakoda on January 08, 2009, 03:11:31 pm Yes, we have 10 colors and often play that many -- house rule. It requires most/all of the expansions or at least multiple (base) sets. I picked up my extra meeples at meeplepeople.com (http://www.meeplepeople.com/products.php?cat=44). Their sets include 10 basic meeples, 1 super, 1 trader, and 1 pig. They do not have the mayor expansion's meeples yet (edit: or the tower pieces). It's nice for replacement parts or just extra colors - I added purple, orange, brown and nude (tan).
(edit2: I see know that the actually have sets with 10, in the past you had to buy them individually and when I bought 8 they'd send me 10...weird but awesome) Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 08, 2009, 03:16:18 pm On eBay I got ALL meeples in whte and orange, including A&M's.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Lakoda on January 08, 2009, 03:48:58 pm Did you search "meeple"? I can't seem to find anything on ebay - I'd love to get my hands on the missing mayor/barn/wagon pieces.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Joff on January 08, 2009, 04:24:49 pm See this thread: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/forum/index.php?topic=433.0 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/forum/index.php?topic=433.0)
It will tell you exactly where to go for extra playing pieces. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 08, 2009, 06:16:27 pm Better go buy them soon. He's closing his ebay shop this year, or so people have been telling me.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Scott on January 08, 2009, 07:12:52 pm Adding more players is doable, but you'll need to decide a few minor things, like whether to increase the number of times the dragon moves each turn, how many towers pieces each player gets, etc.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 08, 2009, 11:57:32 pm Adding more players is doable, but you'll need to decide a few minor things, like whether to increase the number of times the dragon moves each turn, how many towers pieces each player gets, etc. That won't be an issue if one is not playing with The Tower or Princess and Dragon!I would suggest Joff's fan-made Dual Dragon expansion and Black Tower expansion if playing with the Tower & Princess & Dragon. It would mean getting a second copy of both, but I think it is worth it :) Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 10, 2009, 06:23:18 pm Yes, Novelty, you're right but what Scott meant (I think) is that we should adapt some rules or parameters to the bigger number of players. He just mentioned an example. I think this could be an interesting subject of discussion...
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 11, 2009, 06:40:53 am I'm not sure what else needs to be done besides tower pieces and dragon moves. And if one is not playing with the tower or P&D then that's not an issue.
One suggestion would be more meeples, but, the thing about Carc is that it's a game of meeple management. I think the current number is a good number. A&M adds 3 pieces which sort of dilutes the meeple management part. I mean, previous, before A&M, we were always running out of meeples in our games. Then A&M came along and thanks to the Abbey & the 3 new pieces, running out of meeples were not a problem. Increasing the total number of meeples for more players doesn't seem to make sense. Reducing it though, might not make some people happy, so the best solution there is to stick with the rules for the number of meeples. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 11, 2009, 09:22:33 am Meeple number is ok no matter the number of players.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 11, 2009, 09:32:12 am I think this is beginning to sound like a variant of some sort. Perhaps it could be moved to the appropriate forum?
So besides meeple number, what else is there if one is playing with more than 6 meeples? As stated by Scott, only Tower and maybe P&D would have some trouble for more than 6 players from all the existing official expansions. I think all the fan-made expansions I've been involved with can be scaled up to more than 6 players rather easily. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 11, 2009, 09:58:50 am Well I can't figure out anything for the moment. I'll have to "practise" on 7+ players play... But that sounds a good idea. If you want to move this thread to Variants, please do. Just don't forget to mention me... :)
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 11, 2009, 10:17:24 pm I can't move a thread, that's up to the Moderators.
I'm not sure if there's anything else that needs to be scaled up for 7+ players besides the Tower and maybe P&D. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: jalle on January 12, 2009, 02:00:14 am Actually, the "meeple-seller" in germany is closing his shop already in february.
I just ordered the white and orange full sets, and I was promised a "surprise" in the package. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Purity on January 12, 2009, 02:44:58 am keep us informed about the surprise ... depending on this i might start another order ;-)
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 12, 2009, 08:43:38 am jalle, I hope you get something interesting, like a red or yellow barn or something! I'm sad that he's closing down :(
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Lakoda on January 12, 2009, 09:34:35 am That is sad. Has anyone contacted meeplepeople.com about A&M meeples? If not, I will send one off in hopes we receive a new source for those parts.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 12, 2009, 09:39:50 am I think it is a good idea to send meeplepeople.com an email about the A&M meeples. Go ahead and send them an email Lakoda. I await to hear the answers from them!
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: scotty13 on January 12, 2009, 09:43:11 am I sent them an email a few months ago about them and got NO responce from them.
Hopefully they will answer you. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Lakoda on January 12, 2009, 10:59:29 am Email sent, I inquired about A&M meeples and tower pieces. I am not going to hold my breath though, there is not a lot of incentive for them to reply (especially if they have not done so in the past).
*crosses fingers* Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 12, 2009, 11:55:55 am I guess we'll have to go for the painting solution... :(
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Lakoda on January 12, 2009, 12:51:36 pm The people at meeplepeople.com and the German ebay guy must be getting the parts direct from the manufacturer. If anyone here has a good relationship with the German fellow (or any relationship at all, for that matter), it might be worth asking for his supplier? After all, he is closing up shop and has no reason to keep that information private any longer. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: kjamma4 on January 12, 2009, 01:09:36 pm I find it hard to believe that the manufacturer is not known. Is this the case?
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Joff on January 12, 2009, 01:58:25 pm I have attempted to find out on numerous occasions who exactly is the company that manufactures the wooden pieces. I only know a couple of facts: 1) The game pieces are made in Germany. 2) The factory supplies pieces for lots of different 'euro' games. They certainly make pieces for Carcassonne (and spin-offs), Settlers of Catan, Stone Age, Agricola. My guess is that HiG use them for all their games, and I guess that would go for Kosmos also.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: kjamma4 on January 12, 2009, 04:00:10 pm What? We don't have an insider at HiG that can feed us the info?
Outrageous!!! Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 12, 2009, 07:03:43 pm Hmm... how about someone sending an email to Jay of RGG to ask him about the meeples? Perhaps he will reply. He has replied in the past about a number of things and he is quite nice to deal with from my experience asking him about CS&C. Any volunteers?
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: jalle on January 13, 2009, 04:31:05 am From what I've heard, the german "meeple-seller" is working for the manufacturer but his selling is somewhat on the "side" and not official, so that's why there is an amount of secrecy here. It might not be a good idea to dig that deep into this.
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 13, 2009, 06:12:37 am How about asking HiG or even RGG?
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 13, 2009, 06:14:51 am psssst koolkat - from above:
Hmm... how about someone sending an email to Jay of RGG to ask him about the meeples? Perhaps he will reply. He has replied in the past about a number of things and he is quite nice to deal with from my experience asking him about CS&C. Any volunteers? Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 13, 2009, 06:16:41 am I could volunteer if you tell me how to contact him...
What bad thing could happen to me? Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Novelty on January 13, 2009, 06:17:57 am Go to RGG's site and get his email from there. And shame on you if you don't have RGG's site bookmarked! ;D http://www.riograndegames.com/
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 13, 2009, 06:24:46 am I don't have anything bookmarked because of phishing on homebanking. I clear everything as soon as I close my browser. I've been robbed before. Thankfully, my bank got my money back. Besides, I know all these "important" addresses by heart. Even better, right? I even know my Social Security, ID and driver's license numbers by heart... :)
I'll contact BGG and give you some feedback. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 13, 2009, 06:34:06 am I just send them am inquiry through the costumer service. If and as soon as I get get some answer back, I'll give some feedback...
Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: Joff on January 13, 2009, 09:51:16 am From what I've heard, the german "meeple-seller" is working for the manufacturer but his selling is somewhat on the "side" and not official, so that's why there is an amount of secrecy here. It might not be a good idea to dig that deep into this. Just to make everybody aware, this information has not come via me. The seller has asked me to keep certain information that I have been told by him confidential. Title: Re: Extra colours, extra players? Post by: koolkat on January 13, 2009, 10:08:57 am You got it! I just went to the source as would anybody...
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