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I didn't want to steal anyone else's thunder by posting in their thread so I started this new thread just to show off the tiles I've been making from the official tiles.  I must say it's so much more satisfying to have them as tiles rather than glued onto cardboard.

Printing tips - print the PDF files at 100%, please ensure that there is no resizing to fit the paper.  My default paper size is A4.  Printer is a HP LaserJet 2600n.

I'm just using a glue stick to stick them on.  I hope they hold.  I'm not getting any black lines on the tiles, but I'll note that these tiles do not have the city segments which have thicker black lines.

Anyways, here's my copy of CS&C with the 2 blank tiles converted to forest tiles:

(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/csnctiles.jpg)

Apologies for the blurring in that picture.  You can tell which 2 used to be the blank tiles.  Next up, completing the remaining 13 tiles from Forest01.

Well, I was very impressed with koolkat's tiles so here's what I have made:

(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/forest01.jpg)

Again, apologies for the blurriness.  There's one extra tile there not from Forests.  Can you spot it?  It's there for comparison purposes.

Naughty boy! Contest ideas are mine! The tile you  mention is the one with the cult site...

I was also wondering if anyone will tell me how many completed forests are there in that picture.

Anyways, I'm out of tiles.  I'm going to try and email HiG to see if they would send the blank tiles outside Europe :o

I see 2 complete.

I agree. Top right and bottom left corners.

3 complete: top left, center, bottom right, right?

The forest in the center is not complete at the right edge.

Of course. Sorry. Only two complete.

Nope, HiG is not willing to send tiles outside Europe :(  I guess I just have to pick up more expansions to make these tiles.  The first batch was made with Tower tiles (I wanted to make black tower pieces, so I bought a second copy of The Tower)  I'm glad that we can now get CS&C easily to make tiles!  I also need to pick up P&D for the second dragon (for Dual Dragon) so I should have some more extra tiles there :)

It's realy a pity. There should be a way for you to get blank tiles.

We can.  It's called Cult, Siege and Creativity.  We only get 2 blank tiles though in there though :(  However, it's fine.  I plan on buying about 20 CS&C and maybe 10 Rivers 2 the next time I visit the LGS (Local board-Game Store) and I'll have 240 "grey back" tiles and 120 "black back" tiles.

good enough...

Yeah, but you get to play 1 euro for 12 tiles.  I have to pay 5 times that :(

Yes. Your other solution is to move to Europe... (Didn't mean to be mean)

Heh, don't need to do that.  I just need to find someone in Europe who's willing to forward it to me.

Well, if I didn't need lots of blank tiles, I would. I'm allways here to help. But HiG could suspect of something and stop selling me.

Anyways, here's my next batch of tiles.  Apologies for the flash overexposing part of the image.  4 Cathar tiles with the image from BGG (the colours doesn't match with any of the tiles I make :() and 12 rivers tiles (formerly Rivers 2) from Fishermen.  Meeples (clockwise from top): Orange Barn, purple pig, red H&G meeple, black tower, pink meeple, white wagon.  As usual, have fun spotting all the mistakes in the image.

wagon placed on 2 tiles. barn on forbidden place (2 city corners). H&G meeple!

The wagon is correctly placed, it's still on a road.  And there are a lot more mistakes than 1 :)

Sorry, but it seems that the wagon must be placed in ONE tile. Purple pig with no purple farmer. interruped road bottom right. I can't see if the tower BLACK peace is on a tower foundation.

The wagon was placed on the river tile to the left.  However, there isn't enough space, so it was hanging over the edge until the other tile was added.  Note how currently the pink meeple is hanging over the edge.  When the 2nd tile is placed the pink meeple will be on 2 tiles.  So there's nothing wrong with that.

Anyways, I think there are 5 mistakes in the image.

The actual 4 tiles don't match any of the other tiles...it is like they came pre-faded - some of my older tiles don't have the luster (or shine) to them like the new ones do, but the Cathers are just different.  So I'd expect the scan at BGG to be off as well.

Ah, thanks Lakoda.  Well, if I feel up to it, one of these days, I will "recolour" the Cathar scans to match the rest of my tiles ;D

Here are my 12 black tower piece, all painted.  My apologies for being a really poor photographer :(  I did a demo of a "pink tower" piece which took double as long as the black tower pieces to paint.  Also included in the pic is a pink meeple just for comparison.

(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/blacktower.jpg)

Nice!  I so don't have the patients to paint, I can put sticky on a tile but painting is too hard and I get frustrated, so props!!!

I look forward to a 'recolored' Cather set.

You could always use this:

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/images/download/catharsiegetn.jpg)

It can be downloaded from the Public Downloads (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=61)

I finally got this today:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KZuByZOmikQ/SZ04r21EV7I/AAAAAAAAAFw/83RXRVmbP3o/s320/DSCN1256.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KZuByZOmikQ/SZ07nG1gvXI/AAAAAAAAAF4/iGFA9Ud2-ws/s320/DSCN1257.JPG)

Yay!  What shall I do with 120 tiles?  Hmmm... no points for guessing the correct answer :)

How much did those 10 sheets cost you and who do you order them from?

Also, in general, does anyone know of a good flat bed inkjet printer that will handle 2 mm thick paper?  Canon only makes one that will do 1.2 mm.

Thanks,
S1

I got them from HiG, or rather my friend in Europe got them from HiG.  I paid 27 euros for the whole lot - 10 euro to HiG and 17 for shipping.

Ink is water soluble; better to look at laser printing. 2mm might be too thick for typical printers. The manufacturer probably uses a plot-style printer where the material remains stationary and the print head moves above it.

*gasp* there is an illegally placed piece in the bottom right!


I only have a prehistoric ink jet which hates me to print the tiles, so sometimes they're blurry (depends on how nice the printer is being), I can't let the tiles get wet/ put on too much glue, and the printer finds other ways to annoy me (such as displaying 'out of coloured ink' when it knows perfectly well that there is plenty (and I have proved that there is) as well as spilling black ink on the edges of some of the pages I print...)
We do have a newer, kinder laserjet printer but that only does black and white...

I plan to clear coat the tiles after 24 hours of drying.  I can not find a photo color laser printer that will feed 2mm thick paper flat.  And I have looked at thermal transfer as well and the only good ones still being made are $3k plus.  I can justify spending about $800 to 1K, but that is about it.

Guess I am going to have to find a used "professional" printer to solve the issue if no one has a good suggestion.

Nobody has identified all the mistakes on the image before this one.  There are quite a number of mistakes on that one.

(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/fantasy.jpg)

That's Wizard of Oz, Fairy Tales (featureing the Big Bad Wolf) and Log Cabins.  I still haven't got my big bad wolf meeples so I'm using the black meeples from The Discovery.  I'm also using the green meeple from The Discovery as my Wizard of Oz :)  Other meeples in the picture include 2 brown normal meeples and a brown pig.  There's also a gold-painted tower piece sitting on the gold bricks/tower tile.

I had a 2008 desktop calendar lying around, so I measured the cardboard stand and it was the same thickness as Carc tiles.  There's now a hole in it as I cut out a small piece to make the apples and timber counters from Fairy Tales.  I guess I'll have to make An Apple a Day and Timber! tiles next!

The curse of the printer strikes again! Today's annoyance consists of all the tiles I'm trying to print out turning blue... which would be all right if I was making an expansion 'the blizzard' but I'm not, unfortunately...

Hah!    ........hmmmmmm

That happens when you run out of the other colors. Having only blue left is quite an achievement because it means you used equal amounts of yellow and magenta. I used to run out of just one color and be left with a sickly purple color. It can be especially annoying if your printer has a combined color cartridge. This is why when I upgraded to laser, I also looked for a printer with separate color cartridges. (Inkjets with separate color cartridges also exist.)

I don't think it's out of magenta, the red still shows, it's just the green that has gone blue, so only yellow is missing. But it has done it before, printing out yellow or other colours, but it's usually only a temporary problem so I'll have another go later...

Isn't that a red meeple from Discovery and not H&G?

Yes, you're right, it's discovery.

Where did you find the orange barn and white cart?  Did you paint them?

I bought a full set of white and orange A&M meeples from ebay.

I've been looking for those everywhere!

Do you know if they are still available?  Which ebay (country) site was that? 

You mentioned before that you used a simple glue stick on your homemade tiles.  Is that working out?

You can sometimes tell that the tile is homemade, so I just throw everything into a big bag.  Well, if it falls off (and it hasn't yet), I can just print out new ones and glue them back on, so there's no big loss for me there.

My problem is now how to print out the expansions now our colour printer is kaputt...

Do you have stationery shops that will print them for you?  How about photograph print shops?  You might have to ask around, and pay a bit, but it is possible to get them printed out in good quality.

The question would be, when the dragon comes, on which tile does the cart get eaten?  Likewise with the tower, on which tile is the cart captured.  It seems obvious that the correct answer is the tile it was placed on, but I can see where some people might be confused if several rounds have gone by.

So I finally got around with playing Mega-carc + Forests and some rivers.  All official expansions used - with the exception of the Count of Carcassonne, but did not use the rules for P&D and Catapult.  That's

Base Carcassonne
River 1
Inns & Cathedrals
Traders & Builders
Princess & Dragon
King (of King & Scout)
Abbey & Mayor
River 2
River 2 from GK&K
Shrines from GK&K
Shrines from HiG Almanac
Cult & Siege from CS&C
Cathars
GQ11
Catapult

Fan-made expansions include:

Forests
Timber
Evergreen Forest
Green Dragon
Apple a Day
Log Cabin
Fairy Tales
Wizard of Oz
Fishermen (partial)
Black Tower

and maybe one or two more that I can't remember.  Here's some photos.

The Big Box scoreboard and my old scoreboard is different in colour:
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/oldvsnew.jpg)

Pile of tiles used in the game:
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/alltiles.jpg)

Non-tiles
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/otherbits.jpg)

Trade goods stacked up
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/tradegoods.jpg)

Sample of the figures.  Yes, that is an orange A&M set.  I also got my Agricola sheep, cow and boar which I photographed below
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/figures.jpg)

It took 2 towers to fit all the tiles, and then some
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/tower.jpg)

After about 2 hours this was the result:
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/midgame.jpg)
The blue Carc bag held the Apple trade goods.
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/midgametower.jpg)
There was a mistake (illegal placement) that went unnoticed for a long time...

That was long.  We decided to call it a day.  The person in the lead at that point had almost 200 points.  Total points was about 500 shared between 3 players.

The abbey tiles went fast.  Here's a close up of the black tower and the abbey tiles in play:
(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/abbeysntower.jpg)

Wow... I'd like to do that!  My wife thinks there is something wrong with me.  She got tired of playing with 250 tiles.  

How many players were there?  

I bought that same set of sheep, cows, and pigs to eventually use for Dragon Hunter.  I also bought 30 extra sheep for Shepherds.  (I'm using 5 instead of 6).

What was the illeagal placement?  I didn't notice, is it pictured?

3 players as mentioned in the post.  And I'll leave it up to some enterprising poster to find the 2 mistakes (yes, I spotted a second one just now!)

I guess I missed that...

Errors: 
In picture #7 (next to the blue bag) & #8, it appears as though the red builder is in a city all by itself.  The two cities are not connected.

In picture #7, there are two cloisters and a shrine too close to each other just south of the blue barn. 

Same picture, below the shrine/cloister group, there is another group of four cloisters next to an abbey.  Right below that group of cloisters are two tiles with a city section of one tile up against a farm section of another tile (a dragon tile).

I find it interesting that there are no cathedral tiles in play.  There needs to be a few more in a game of this size IMO.

The blue & orange players have a lovely farm going with their barns.  With 9 complete cities (1 under siege) and a potential for at least 4 more, it's definitely a farm I'd like to have.  Too bad that little piece of forest cuts it off on the right.  It prevents 5 more completed cities.  If I were the blue player, I'd be making as many little cities as I could over on the left side where the farm is still open.  I would quickly try to add my pig and a pig farm tile (debatable, I know, but that's how we play).  That farm could knock red out of contention unless they can figure out a way to get in it.

It looked for a minute like you are also playing with the wheat and lavender fields, but I think what I'm seeing is from the OZ set, right?  Do you play the Beast's Castle with the Lord of the Manor rules?

The tiles aren't "squared up" with each other.  That will get you spoken harshly to in my house!  ;D

Ah, I missed that.  So there's 3 errors then.

None of them got drawn.  Perhaps there need to be more, but my gaming group just isn't fond of cccc tiles in general, although having said that, all 3 of them that got drawn in this game was part of completed cities.

Yes, those are Oz tiles.  There were no wheat/lavender farms in play.  I don't see what could be Lavender tiles, and the farm tiles from Oz aren't as good as Chr15lynn's wheat field tiles.  We started playing with the Lord of the Manor rules, but the tower put an end to that rather quickly.  That's usually the case.  One reason why I don't really like the tower, but it does balance things out.  Red had 6 captured followers at one stage!  What I do wish for is more Abbeys - those plug in the gaps quick for easy points (and trade goods).  I think we will play with 2 - 3 abbey tiles per player from now on (since I do have 12 of them).

Edit: Hopefully I'll have some time tonight to make more custom tiles - I cleared out my FLGS of River 2 expansions last week, but haven't found the time to make the tiles yet!  There were too few river tiles in the game, even with 3 river expansions and 30 fan-made river tiles.

Sorry for the double post, but I just wanted to show the first tile that I've made where I didn't make the graphic myself...

(http://www.dukenostalgia.com/carc/images/forestfire.jpg)

The meeples are just there to show that the tiles are real tiles.

I found 5 errors in the game:

1. Orange pig on farm with a barn (I'm pretty sure they must be removed? The pig herd only seems to count with a farmer.)
2. Red builder in city by itself.
3. Incorrectly placed tile, a shrine next to two cloisters, below the blue barn.
4. Incorrectly placed tile, city-field placement, below the centre of the map.
5. Incorrectly placed tile, forest-field placement, in the forest at the upper- right corner of the map underneath the volcano and the fairground/ cloister tile, in the rightmost end of the forest.

Not sure about #1.  I haven't been shown anything to my satisfaction on the pig.  I do play the pigfarm with the barn though.
I did miss #5 though.  Good catch.

I seem to remember hearing that the pig cannot be used with a barn, can't remember where I heard it. The pig-farm is mentioned on the A&M FAQ...